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Readers sound off on Obama and immigration, and then some

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A post following up on Tuesday’s State of the Union address titled “Obama’s immigration talk: More yawns than cheers?” has drawn several comments from readers, some directly addressing the president’s brief mention of immigration reform, some not.

In his address Tuesday, President Obama spoke of the need for comprehensive immigration reform, suggesting that if the Dream Act – proposed legislation that would grant conditional legal status to qualifying young people – were to reach his desk, “I will sign it right away.” But this component of his speech wasn’t anything new to those who follow immigration issues, and that was one of the themes of the next day’s reactions in media and elsewhere, samples of which I posted.

In reaction to the post, Skv wrote:

What about thousands of people who came to this country legally, paying taxes and are waiting for their turn to become legal residents. I’m one of them. I came here as a student legally, got a job legally, paying my share of taxes, doing my bit to the community I live in and am waiting for my turn to obtain permanent legal status for the past 7 years.

Is there any closure to our problems? It is rather sad to see that people who are illegal in this country are given importance than people who are here legally.

Hope replied:

Sorry Skv…I came here legally as student and never had a chance to get my resident till I felt in love with my current wife. We applied for my green card but we’ve been fighting with Immigration for 2 years because THEY believe our marriage is not BONA FIDE! I’ve been here for 14 years and when I tried to get my residence in a legal way that’s when my life and my wife’s become a nightmare! THIS IMMIGRATION IS BROKEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED!

At this point my suggestion is …come here legally or illegally – the currently Immigration will give you hard time whether you are legal or not!

Pedro Rita wrote:

Indeed. I am here 14 years also, legally working doing my own volunteer program for over 30 kids with disabilities totally free, with a PHD wife that just finished her studies and 3 Americans kids. I am waiting for my approved green card for over 5 years and looks like I will have to wait for 2 or more years until I get it.

My work creates 15 jobs for Americans and if I leave they all immediately will be out of work. Some bill must be approved to help us with this backlog, even something allowing using the old visas (350.000) from 2002 to 2006 that were not used. We need anything to help us out.

Sue88 wrote:

The legal immigrants who helped elect Obama came here legally for the most part. Why do they want people who commit crimes, work under the table, steal jobs from them  to get special consideration when everyone else plays by the rules?????

Prado4587 (who posts this often) replied:
Because Americans demand and consume the goods and services produced by workers who come or stay here illegally to produce the goods and services that we demand and consume. A lot of illegal immigrants left during the recession and after as Americans eased back their demand and consumption of these goods and services like construction. Unless we cut back on demand and consumption permanently, which will be hard when the economy picks up, or increase the number of immigration visas which is woefully too low to meet supply and demand, we’re going to have illegal aliens in the U.S.
Oiwhfljxcn replied to this conversation:
Do you think Sue, when you buy something and the price of the service isnt enough to pay more than 8 dollars/hour for the workers, you are playing by the rule? You generate illegal immigration because you dont pay enough what your fellow Americans are willing to work for. And I dont blame them for that. … Till you dont pay a decent price dont say you are playing by the rule.

Obama’s immigration policies have caused him to lose ground with Latino voters. The administration has made policy changes lately that will benefit some immigrants, including ongoing reviews of deportation cases and a proposed administrative tweak that would let undocumented green card seekers to apply for a special waiver in the U.S. instead of abroad, but broader reforms have yet to occur. Meanwhile, the administration has moved ahead with tough enforcement-based programs, like the controversial Secure Communities fingerprint-sharing program, and has carried out a record number of deportations.

Still, polls have continued to show Latino voters favoring the president over Republican rivals who have had an even tougher time courting Latinos, with immigration also a stumbling block.

Obama’s immigration reform talk: More yawns than cheers?

Last night during his State of the Union speech, President Obama spoke, as he has before, about the need for comprehensive immigration reform. He also brought up, if not by name, the Dream Act, long-proposed legislation that would grant conditional legal status to undocumented young people who arrived in the U.S. before age 16 if they attend college or join the military.

“Send me a law that gives then the chance to earn their citizenship,” Obama said. “I will sign it right away.” But by and large, Obama’s statements regarding immigration didn’t draw much excitement. Here are a few snippets of reaction from media and elsewhere.

The immigration portion of the speech was nothing we haven’t heard before, wrote Elise Foley in the Huffington Post:

When President Obama’s immigration policy staffers gathered to help pen the State of the Union Address passage dedicated to their issue, they didn’t have much to work with. Comprehensive immigration reform never came close, and the Dream Act failed. What’s a speechwriter to do?

Control-C. Control-V.

“I believe as strongly as ever that we should take on illegal immigration,” Obama said in his Tuesday evening speech.

Indeed, he “strongly believe[d] that we should take on, once and for all, the issue of illegal immigration” last year, according to his State of the Union speech.

A CNN opinion piece posted shortly before the speech last night, written by Lanae Erickson of the left-leaning policy think tank Third Way, predicted what might occur when immigration came up:

Count on it. President Obama will devote three sentences to immigration reform in the State of the Union.

Two dozen lawmakers will jump to their feet and applaud. One-third of the audience will give an obligatory clap. The rest will sit silently, stifling a yawn.

Five years ago, comprehensive immigration reform legislation seemed possible and deeply bipartisan. Now it seems as unlikely and distant as President Bush’s mission to Mars.

The Washington Post’s Ezra Klein didn’t get specifically into immigration in his Wonkblog today, but had this to say:

Last night’s State of the Union will not take a place alongside Barack Obama’s 2008 speech on race. It won’t be mentioned in the same breath as his 2004 speech in Boston. It didn’t even have the intellectual scope and narrative sweep of his 2011 speech in Osawatomie, Kansas.

Rather, it was a laundry list of policies, along the lines of the State of the Unions Bill Clinton delivered late in his presidency. Which makes perfect sense. Obama is staffed by much of the same team that wrote those State of the Unions.

And more along these lines, in different words, from Victor Landa at News Taco:

He can afford to play from his base because the opposition has left the filed open. So he reiterated many of the Democratic points and positions that he’s been hitting for three years (immigration, homeowner relief, student loans, etc…), and strike a note toward the center by saying what the American citizenry has been saying all along — Washington is broken.

How did some of those young immigrants who stand to benefit from the legislation Obama was talking about react? Not with much enthusiasm, either. Obama’s track record has included record deportations and tightened interior enforcement, which among other things has eroded his Latino support as the November election gets closer. An undocumented student activist group called Dream Team Los Angeles had this line in its statement today:

The President must not blame “election year politics” for four years of inaction and political unwillingness to stand with the immigrant community that helped elect him.

Angelica Salas, director of the advocacy group Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights, reacted similarly in another statement:

Although conciliatory in words, the President’s immigration policy remains at a stand-still while the massive and ever-expanding deportation machine is well oiled and humming along. The reform he promised to see through during the first year of his first term is now given short shrift as he outlines his priorities during its last.

At the same time, the president did set himself aside from his Republican competitors, whose own tone on immigration has not been winning over disenchanted Obama supporters. Candidate Mitt Romney has vowed to veto the Dream Act and most recently talked about encouraging “self-deportation,” while his chief rival Newt Gingrich, initially more lenient and favoring a path to citizenship for some, has shifted positions during the campaign. Gingrich most recently said he’d favor a military version of the Dream Act, without a college component.

At a SOTU viewing party in L.A., little hope for immigration reform

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Attendees watch the State of the Union address at CHIRLA, January 25, 2010

Even before tonight’s State of the Union address, expectations that President Obama would address immigration issues weren’t high. Still, a small crowd of mostly Latino activists, students, blue-collar workers and others gathered to watch it at the downtown office of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles, which held a “viewing party” showing the address on a large screen with a simultaneous Spanish translation.

Some were simply curious to hear what Obama might say about immigration; others, including some who were in the same room at the immigrant advocacy office last month watching the Senate vote on the Dream Act, wondered if he might offer them a specific nugget of hope.

Here’s the portion of the address that dealt with immigration, from a draft copy of the speech obtained and published by the National Journal (and subsequently by the Huffington Post):

One last point about education. Today, there are hundreds of thousands of students excelling in our schools who are not American citizens. Some are the children of undocumented workers, who had nothing to do with the actions of their parents. They grew up as Americans and pledge allegiance to our flag, and yet live every day with the threat of deportation. Others come here from abroad to study in our colleges and universities. But as soon as they obtain advanced degrees, we send them back home to compete against us. It makes no sense.

Now, I strongly believe that we should take on, once and for all, the issue of illegal immigration. I am prepared to work with Republicans and Democrats to protect our borders, enforce our laws and address the millions of undocumented workers who are now living in the shadows. I know that debate will be difficult and take time. But tonight, let’s agree to make that effort. And let’s stop expelling talented, responsible young people who can staff our research labs, start new businesses, and further enrich this nation.

Obama then moved on to business and infrastructure. After the address, reactions from the audience at CHIRLA ranged from disappointment to very subtle hope to head-scratching over what sounded like clear support for the Dream Act, minus the name.

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Mr. Hernandez goes to Washington

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Daniel Hernandez

Daniel Hernandez, the young college intern who came to Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ rescue after she was shot earlier this month in Tucson, will attend President Obama’s State of the Union Address as a guest of Michelle Obama, along with the family of 9-year-old Christina Taylor Green, who died in the Jan. 8 attack at a Tucson grocery store that killed six and injured several others.

Here’s what Hernandez, who turns 21 today, told USA Today:

“It’s definitely a very exciting way to be spending my 21st birthday,” Hernandez said in an interview. “It’s a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. I only wish it had happened under different circumstances.”

In the weeks since the shooting, Hernandez has drawn a legion of fans, in part because of his heroism, in part because he also happens to be Latino and openly gay, and in part because of his uncanny calm and poise at a tender age. Hernandez, who had been working for Giffords for five days at the time of the shooting, ran toward the sound of the gunfire when shots rang out, then used skills he had learned in nursing training to check the pulses of those on the ground. He applied steady pressure to Giffords’ head wound to help stem the flow of blood and prevented her from choking, actions for which he’s been credited with saving her life.

Then, during the Jan. 12 memorial service at the University of Arizona, where he is a student, he proved himself a rousing public speaker while refusing the title of “hero.”

As it turns out, Hernandez had been interviewed by news media before – when he was 10. From the Arizona Daily Star:

When Daniel Hernandez Jr. was about 10 years old, he was interviewed on KUAT, Channel 6, about bilingual classes at his south-side school, Liberty Elementary.

The youngster was calm and spoke in a measured tone, said his father, Daniel Hernandez Sr.

The undoubtedly proud Hernandez Sr., who is 61, flew to Washington with his son and will watch on a monitor at the White House, according to USA Today.