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As violence mounts back home, are Egyptian Americans losing hope?

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Egyptian Coptic Christians pray during a service at St. Mary of Egypt Coptic Orthodox Church in Newhall, Calif., October 2011

At the beginning of this year, as the protests in Egypt that eventually led to the toppling of president Hosni Mubarak were heating up, there were many Coptic Christian Egyptians in Egypt and abroad who were apprehensive, less confident about what might happen in Mubarak’s absence than the majority of those in the crowds rallying in Cairo’s Tahrir Square.

As a religious minority in a majority-Muslim country, the Copts feared persecution. Now, eight months after Mubarak stepped down, anti-Copt violence has spread and is growing increasingly deadly. It took on new proportions last Sunday, during a protest by Copts in Cairo over the government’s failure to investigate an attack on a church stemming by a permitting controversy.

Witnesses said military vehicles sped into the crowd, crushing protesters. Others were shot. Twenty-five people were killed and hundreds injured. The violence has cast a pall on the elation felt months ago by Egyptians at home and abroad. Egyptian immigrants in the United States, once glued to the television as they cheered what they hoped would be the end of the repression many fled, are becoming more accustomed lately to bad news from home.

Are they losing their hope? Yasmin Nouh, the daughter of an Egyptian immigrant, spoke with several Egyptians, Copts and Muslims, living in Southern California. Here is what they had to say:

Hany Tekla, a part-time lecturer of the Coptic language at UCLA, came to the United States from Cairo in 1970. He is president of the St. Shenouda the Archimandrite Coptic Society, which aims to preserve Coptic Christian heritage in Egypt. He had high hopes for the revolution to succeed at its inception, but his hopes have dwindled.

I’m struggling between what I see, what I know that happened, and history. In short, it’s depressing seeing images of cars going over people, crushing them. It renders a person very helpless.

What happened in January was the silent majority woke up and said we won’t take it anymore. But, by their nature, they are usually silent. As for the violent groups, it’s in their nature to keep on going. I would say the revolution was hijacked by these incidents.

Mounir Bishay is the president of Christian Copts of California. A resident of Los Angeles resident, he is planning a rally this Sunday to raise awareness about the violence in Cairo. An immigrant from southern Egypt, he fears that fringe Muslim groups will gain influence over the government, further endangering Copts.

Mubarak had problems but he had a strong hand against the extremists. We thought after the revolution that we Christians would get a better government, but it looks like it’s worse. It will get better when the government is controlled by the civilians.

Dr. Maher Hathout is a retired physician and senior advisor to the Muslim Public Affairs Council. He’s written extensively on Islamic law and has been featured in various, prominent news outlets. Sixty years ago, as a young student protester, he partook in demonstrations in Cairo against political repression under the leadership of former president Gamal Abdul-Nasser.

The media is capturing only the voices expressing anger, but the majority of Egyptians have been living peacefully with Copts for centuries. These events are alien to Egypt. We have never been divided like this. The mainstream Egyptians are not having enough voice in this.

Osama Shabaik is the son of Egyptian immigrants, a Muslim who recently graduated from UC Irvine with a Bachelor in International Studies and Economics. He traveled to Cairo last December to study Arabic, staying until June, and while there he witnessed the revolution. During the early days of the protest, he helping his cousins bring food and medicine to Tahrir square. His hopes for the future of Egypt of remain strong, but not without reservations.

The whole idea of a Muslim-Christian line, while mostly insignificant in the past, is still a small crack that you can instigate. The fact that there is a certain type of divide (it happens to be one of the divides in Egyptian society), it can be exploited to create a fear of chaos at the moment in order to justify the continued use of emergency law by the army in my opinion. I think elements of the old regime are behind it.

I’m worried, but after spending time in Egypt and seeing massive amounts of people in the street protesting, fighting for their basic freedoms without necessarily having any ulterior motives, gives me hope that the vast majority of Egyptian people won’t allow the revolution to be co-opted.

Yasmin is an intern at KPCC. She has written several posts for Multi-American, most recently about observing Ramadan in a fast-paced society and the smell of roasted corn during family visits to her father’s native Alexandria, Egypt.

‘It kind of took me by surprise:’ Egyptian American voices

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Patrons watched Al Jazeera updates from Egypt last night at the Nubia Cafe in Anaheim, February 10, 2011

Last night, in one of the crowded hookah lounges that dot an Anaheim neighborhood known as Little Arabia, I came across a table of Egyptian immigrants tensely watching Al Jazeera via satellite, a group of friends grumbling over a shared smoke and many cups of hibiscus tea.

They were angry and frustrated, having hoped for a resignation announcement from Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak yesterday that turned, instead, into a declaration that he planned to stay in power. But not for long. This morning, those who had managed to sleep awoke to the news they had hoped for: Amid mounting protests, with hundreds of thousands crowding Cairo’s Tahrir Square and unrest throughout Egypt, Mubarak finally resigned, ceding power to the military.

Since then, I’ve caught up with several of the same people I spoke with last night. Today is a new day, they said, and they are elated. For some, mixed in with the joy is a bit of fear of the unknown, magnified by distance as they watch the country they grew up in, and where many of their loved ones still live, begin the difficult transition toward what they hope will be genuine democracy.

But they’re hoping for the best. Some of their thoughts:

Even though we were looking forward to this moment, it kind of took me by surprise. I was expecting him (Mubarak) to give up power, basically, but not that soon. After he delegated some of his power to the vice president, (I thought) that he might stay or try to stay to see how it plays out for maybe another week.

But it seems he looked at the big picture and finally, according to his calculations, found out that he would be out no matter when. He decided to cut it short. Obviously, the country was going into a complete hole.

I am optimistic in that we will see real democracy finally being practiced in Egypt. On the other hand, I am skeptical, because the rigged parliament is still in place. It’s not right to have the same people be deciding the future of the country.

I definitely wish I was there. Last night, they (my friends) were talking about seriously trying to get there quickly, like flying out today or tomorrow. And I said that unfortunately, I had my calendar full for the whole month.

Ahmed Elzarie, 52, of Buena Park, a freelance interpreter who has lived in the U.S. for 21 years

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American snapshot: Egyptian pride in Anaheim

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Mohamad Said celebrates outside a bakery on Brookhurst Avenue in Anaheim, a stretch dubbed the "Gaza Strip" for its many businesses catering to Middle Eastern immigrants. February 11, 2011

Said, 28, told KPCC reporter Shirley Jahad this morning that his family was in Cairo’s Tahrir Square, and that “the biggest flag of Egypt is in his heart.”

‘Yes we can and we did it:’ Egypt supporters react on Facebook

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Since news broke earlier this morning of Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak’s resignation after 18 days of protests that have spread around the country, people have been posting comments on the many Facebook pages that have sprung up in support of the demonstrators.

Here are just a few:

From Support the Egyptian Revolution 2011:

D-Nitikka Hoyer: The people did it they stayed strong even when told to leave always stand on truth

From I Support the Egyptian People:

Rosa Saied: MABRUK MASR!!!!!! IM SO HAPPY FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THERE.. BYE BYE MUBARAK UR TIME IS DONE NOW.

Aatish Shah: MUBARAK OUT, ARMY IN !! Chearzzz Hoodies (:

From Support the Egyptian People and Democracy in Egypt:

Mohamed Ahmed Abdallah: can’t believe it …congrats Egypt .. it’s time to shine .. it’s time for change ..it’s time for real democracy ..it’s your time now ….we finally made it !!! Husny mubarak down !!

Seseme Ali: thank you tunisia thank you khaled saeid thank you wael ghoneem and group than you aljazeera from the heart thank you honest people from the whole world thanks god!!!!!!

And from Scuba Divers in Support of Egyptian Union and Peace, partly administered out of Dahab on the Red Sea and partly out of Europe:

Zizo Zi: Yes we can and we did it :)

Young Egyptian Americans identify with crisis from afar

LA’s Egyptians mobilized with protesters at home from 89.3 KPCC on Vimeo.

KPCC interns Cecilia Gregoriades and Faun Kime went out last weekend and spoke with a couple of younger Egyptian Americans, including a young woman from a half-Egyptian family who still identified closely with anti-government protesters in Egypt. Like their parents, these young people are closely monitoring the crisis from here.

The unrest in Cairo and elsewhere is well into its third week, with tension escalating between the protesters calling for democratic reforms and the Egyptian military. There have also been clashes between anti-government protesters and those who support president Hosni Mubarak, a close ally of the United States who has ruled for 30 years and is considered a dictator by many. According to Human Rights Watch, at least 297 people are known to have died in the violence.

As many Egyptian Angelenos rally for reforms, others are hesitant

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Ezabelle Attallah, a member of the mostly Egyptian-immigrant Holy Virgin Mary Coptic Orthodox Church in northeast Los Angeles.

For a second weekend in a row, Egyptian Americans in Los Angeles joined protesters in other U.S. cities to rally in solidarity with protesters in Egypt demanding that president Hosni Mubarak step down.

USC’s Neon Tommy posted a slide show of photos from Saturday’s rally outside the federal building in West Los Angeles, which drew hundreds. Another crowd gathered Sunday outside the Egyptian Consulate (video of the rally, above, via JewishJournal.com).

Those attending the local rallies are calling for democratic reforms in Egypt and the end of three decades of rule by Mubarak, a close ally of the United States who in his country is considered a tyrant by many. But one group of Egyptian Coptic Christians in Los Angeles is saying not so fast, fearful that a sudden overturning of Mubarak’s government might bring about changes that could put the country’s Christian minority at risk.

KPCC’s Adolfo Guzman Lopez visited the Egyptian immigrant members of Holy Virgin Mary Church in Highland Park, where about 500 families attend services in Arabic and English.

From the story:

Odette Morcos drove from Glendale for the 6:30 Sunday morning service. Like others here, she’s been glued to her TV set watching the turmoil in her homeland. President Hosni Mubarak should leave, she says, but not immediately, as many back home demand.

“I want Hosni Mubarak to stay for the next eight months until fix everything,” said Morcos.

Morcos and other members of this parish are worried that without Mubarak, there will be chaos that will benefit Muslim extremists. Last month a suicide bomber killed 21 people outside a Christian church in Alexandria.

The unrest in Egypt is entering its third week. Close to a dozen people have reportedly been killed so far, according to the country’s health ministry, and nearly a thousand have been injured.

UPDATE: U.S.-based Human Rights Watch says at least 297 people have been killed since Egypt’s anti-government uprising began two weeks ago, with many deaths outside Cairo as violence has spread. CNN cited a much lower government figure a few days ago.

American snapshot: West L.A., January 29

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A woman holds an Egyptian flag as the car she's in passes a protest in front of the federal building in West Los Angeles last Saturday, January 29, 2011

I came across photographer Asim Bharwani’s terrific Flickr photostream this week while searching for photos of Saturday’s Egyptian solidarity rally in front of the federal building in West Los Angeles, organized by Egyptian Americans from Southern California.

While I chose a different color-drenched photo of the local protesters for my posts, I loved this pair’s quintesentially Angeleno approach to the rally. Bharwani titled it “Egyptian drive-by.”

Bharwani also posts occasionally on his modenadude.com blog.

For some Egyptian Americans, the revolution will be Facebooked

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An Egypt solidarity rally, partly organized on Facebook, outside the federal building in West Los Angeles Saturday, January 29, 2011

Social media has played a remarkable role not only in how Egyptians used it to coordinate the anti-government protests that are now in their ninth day, but in how the world has witnessed, relayed information, and organized around the crisis.

Stories have ranged from the ways in which Egyptians finagled ways around a government shutdown of Internet and cellular access to continue using Twitter and Facebook to how a UCLA graduate student, employing a network of acquaintances in Egypt and old-fashioned telephone land lines, relayed eyewitness updates via Twitter @Jan25Voices.

Among Egyptian Americans, Facebook has played a big role in communicating, commiserating and organizing around the protests, as many have done in recent days to stage solidarity rallies in Los Angeles and other U.S. cities. Many of the Facebook pages dedicated to the Egypt crisis are administered out of the United States (where they tend to be pro-demonstrator).

Here’s a sampling:

  • Society of Egyptian Americans – (SEA) This page, representing an immigrant organization based in Southern California, played a part in the organizing of a rally in West Los Angeles last weekend. Posted Jan. 28: “We are inviting you to attend media and all others to attend in unity to support our cause against the current Egyptian Government. Saturday January 29th at the Federal Building.”
  • Egyptian Diaspora in Support of Demonstrators in Egypt – Jan 25 & Beyond It’s not clear from the page where it’s administered, but posts call for Egyptian Americans to rally and call U.S. political representatives. From the description: “This is a page dedicated to Egyptians living abroad to network and share ideas in support of the January 25 uprising.” On the discussion page one man asks, “Are there any peaceful demonstrations in Miami Florida?”
  • Support the Egyptian Revolution A page administered out of Tallahassee, FL. The description reads: “To all the world, please Support the Egyptian revolution against injustice. This Revolution will be the largest in the Middle East to democratic rule in Egypt and the Middle East and the (w)hole world.” Many of the comments are in Arabic. Continue reading