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Gov. Jerry Brown signs AB 131, second part of California Dream Act

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A California Dream Act supporter's sign at an L.A. demonstration last week

It came down almost to the wire, but California Gov. Jerry Brown has signed legislation that will allow undocumented college students in the state to obtain the same kind of publicly-funded financial aid for tuition now available to U.S. citizens and legal residents.

Late this morning, Brown signed a bill known as AB 131, the second of two bills referred to as the California Dream Act. The signing deadline was tomorrow. The Sacramento Bee published part of a statement from Brown:

“Going to college is a dream that promises intellectual excitement and creative thinking. The Dream Act benefits us all by giving top students a chance to improve their lives and the lives of all of us,” Brown said in a prepared statement.

Both AB 131 and its companion bill, AB 130, were sponsored by Assembly member Gil Cedillo of Los Angeles, who has successfully shepherded similar measures through the legislature in the past, all met with vetoes. While Brown had expressed support for both measures, the time it took for him to sign AB 131, approved by state lawmakers at the end of August, had both supporters and opponents of the bill wondering if he’d decline to sign it.

Part of what made the bill so contentious is that unlike AB 130, which only entitles undocumented students to privately funded grants and scholarships, AB 130 requires the use of state funds. Cedillo’s office has estimated that implementing AB 131 could cost anywhere between $22 million and $42 million, although roughly $13 million of that would come from money that is already set aside for low-income students whose grades qualify them for CalGrants.

As controversial as AB 131 has been, it is not the first state measure allowing undocumented students access to publicly funded tuition aid. According to Cedillo’s spokesman Conrado Terrazas, New Mexico and Texas similarly allow public financial aid for undocumented students, and Illinois has legislation allowing them access to privately-funded tuition aid. Several states – including California – allow undocumented college students who meet state residency requirements to pay less costly in-state tuition rates.

A post earlier this week on whether Brown would sign AB 131 generated more than 70 comments on the Multi-American site, with readers getting into heated debates over the bill. “VETO!” one reader posted last night.

Half an hour ago, a reader identified as Soixantte posted: “Guess what haters? He signed it.”

A recent version of the bill can be downloaded here.

Will the California Dream Act become law? Readers’ reactions

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A post earlier this week addressing whether or not California Gov. Jerry Brown will sign a bill making up part of what’s known as the California Dream Act has generated a very long string of comments, an example of how divisive the debate over the bill has become.

The California Dream Act is composed of two measures, one already signed into law by Brown in July, the other awaiting his signature by Sunday’s approval deadline. The first measure, known as AB 130, will grant undocumented college students access to privately funded scholarships and grants; the second, if it becomes law, would allow them to access the same publicly-funded financial aid that other students are able to obtain for tuition.

Part of the rub with the second bill, known as AB 131, is the money. With the state in a financial crisis, even some of those who didn’t mind the first bill oppose this one. The measure could cost between $22 million and $42 million to implement, according to the office of state Assembly member Gil Cedillo, who sponsored both bills. However, roughly $13 million of that would come from money already set aside for low-income students whose grades qualify them for CalGrants.

While there is vocal opposition, not necessarily along party lines, the bill has the widespread support of immigrant and Latino advocacy groups, along with a network of undocumented college students and their supporters. Undocumented students in California may obtain in-state tuition rates, but are presently barred from financial aid.

The comments under Wednesday’s post have ranged from ardent support of AB 131 to outrage that it’s being even considered. A few of the highlights, unedited:

Maldonado wrote:

*******************I don’t really understand  how some  of you can talk like that about illegal immigrants as if we were from another planet, we are just people that want to get a better future working in this country, doing the kind of jobs that you won’t do not even obligated. we are not taking any money from you……we are the ones who cook your food, clean and build your houses. Are we taking your jobs? Are you a US citizen looking for a job? I give you the address of the restaurant where I work so you can earn money as a dish washer,  it is for sure that no even a starving US citizen will get lower to that point. Do you think you are better than us? show me physically what you have that we don’t……we have feelings, just like you. we get sick just like you. And also we are people, just like you*********************
HeSaid1 wrote:
Just to set the record straight, this is not about loans.  Illegal Alien Students are not eligible for loans.  AB 131 (Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors and its contents at:  http://www.aroundthecapitol.co… will give FREE State, Local, and Federal monies for books, living expense, etc., EOPS funds, fee (tuition) waivers, and other Board of Governors discretionary decisions.
It does not make them eligible to be legally employed, nor provide a path to citizenship.  It would give them free money for a higher education with no ROI (return of investment) and add to our bankrupt State’s debt ($38 Million) while displacing and “pricing out” those Legal Students (Californian Legal Residents and Legal Immigrants) through reverse economic discrimination.  Also, for the four year schools, out-of-state and Foreign Nationals are being recruited because they can pay nearly double the in-state tuition, to line the coffers of the de-funded system.

Will Jerry Brown sign the California Dream Act’s AB 131?

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UCLA graduate and California Dream Act supporter Nancy Meza holds petitions in downtown Los Angeles, Wednesday, October 5, 2011

California Gov. Jerry Brown has just four days left to sign or veto a bill known as AB 131, part of what’s called the California Dream Act, before a bill-signing deadline.

Brown has indicated his support in the past for the measure, which would allow undocumented students access to publicly-funded financial aid for college. But with little time left to go – and a history of similar bills being vetoed by former governor Arnold Schwarzenegger – the students who would benefit from AB 131 and immigrant advocates are increasing the pressure.

In Los Angeles, student activists organized a small demonstration downtown this morning to deliver petitions to Brown’s local office. Other AB 131 supporters have been circulating petitions online and urging calls to the governor.

No word yet from Brown’s office today on the likelihood that he’ll decide on the bill before Friday, but a spokesman for AB 131 sponsor Gil Cedillo, a Democratic state assembly member from Los Angeles, said the governor has until Sunday.

“The deadline is the 9th, so even if it is a weekend, that is the last day he can sign or veto bills,” wrote Conrado Terrazas, Cedillo’s spokesman, in an email.

The stakes are high and the bill is especially contentious, with supporters and opponents divided along more than party lines.

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California Dream Act clears the Senate – what’s next?

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A student activist's t-shirt, March 2011

The second of two bills making up the California Dream Act is one step closer to being signed into law by Gov. Jerry Brown. The bill known as AB 131, which would give undocumented college students access to state-funded financial aid, cleared the state Senate 22-11 today, UC Berkeley’s Daily Californian reports.

It now goes back to the Assembly for approval of amendments made in the Senate. The bill will likely be signed if it reaches the governor’s desk, as Brown has already indicated his support.

But AB 131 still faces challenges. Its companion bill AB 130, signed into law last month, will allow undocumented college students access to privately-funded scholarships and grants not available to them before. AB 131, on the other hand, would allow them to receive the same state-funded tuition aid programs available to U.S. citizens and legal residents, a costlier proposition that has drawn more controversy than the previous bill.

The measure has come far enough in a tough state economic climate. Implementing AB 131 could cost anywhere between $22 million and $42 million, according to office of Assembly member Gil Cedillo, who sponsored the bill, although roughly $13 million of that would come from money already set aside for low-income students whose grades qualify them for CalGrants. Opponents say they don’t wish to spend state funds on educating undocumented students, especially if their immigration status prevents them from fully using their degrees.

Unlike the federal Development, Relief and Education of Minors (DREAM) Act, the California bills don’t propose granting legal status to students. Undocumented immigrants in California qualify for in-state tuition if they meet residency requirements, but they are presently barred from receiving public tuition aid, as other students can. As an alternative, many work multiple jobs while spreading out their education over several years.

More reaction to California Dream Act from KPCC listeners

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A student activist's t-shirt, March 2011

Last Friday I joined guest host David Lazarus of the Los Angeles Times on KPCC’s AirTalk to discuss the California Dream Act, a package of two bills that would make it easier for undocumented college students to pay tuition.

One bill, AB 130, grants these students access to privately funded scholarships and was recently signed into law by Gov. Jerry Brown. A second, more controversial and costlier measure known as AB 131 that would enable them to access state-funded tuition aid, like other students, is expected to reach the Senate floor for a vote this week. If approved by legislators, Brown is likely to sign it.

During the segment, David (filling in for Larry Mantle) and I listened to several callers’ comments and answered their questions. But the comments and questions didn’t end there. The segment generated dozens of comments posted to the show’s website. Here are just a few of the thoughts shared by AirTalk listeners, unedited:

Pat wrote:

I simply don’t get it. We’re strapped for cash and current students have difficulty obtaining monies for school. I can empathize with the illegal students plight, but simply cannot afford this now. Governor Brown will lose my vote if he signs the bill.

Viet Nguyen wrote:

I’m very torn about this. I believe we need to continue America’s great advantage: attracting intellectual talent from around the world. Talent is talent and the state and country should do what they can to keep it. However, I feel that we can do this legally with legal immigrants. There are those waiting to get into the country who are circumvented with a program like this.

Dg wrote:

I’m so sympathetic with kids who are not here legally due to no fault of their own, but I agree with the logic that says we cannot make provision in law for people whose very presence here reflects disregard for very important laws. If the “pro immigrant side” sounded more respectful of our need to control our borders, it would actually help their position. Would the pro immigrant side expel ANY unlawful immigrants?

Shawn wrote:

Strongly support AB131. I’m not from a family of recent immigrants, but it’s the vibrant contribution of immigrants that have driven the California tech economy. The people are here, if we deprive them from being the best they can be, we deprive California from being the economic power house it can be. Note that everyone pays California taxes, regardless of their legal status.

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Reaction to the California Dream Act

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A bill that would provide undocumented students in California with access to public financial aid for college is on its way to a Senate vote, but it isn’t expected to have an easy ride.

AB 131 is part of a two-bill package referred to as the California Dream Act. Its companion bill AB 130, signed into law last month, will allow undocumented college students access to privately-funded scholarships and grants not available to them before. The more contentious AB 131 would let them access the same state-funded tuition aid programs available to U.S. citizens and legal residents.

The controversy that the latter bill is attracting is evident just from the conversation on this site under a post from yesterday, when the bill moved out of committee and toward the Senate floor, with a vote expected as early as next week. Here are a few excerpts from readers.

Ke6rbt wrote:

Stop short changing American students.  They don’t get help because they already speak English.

Bigsack831 wrote:

the help is there for american citizens if they are not receiving it it’s because the ain’t looking for it

HeSaid1 wrote:

ILLEGAL is the issue, despite your ridiculing rhetoric.  ILLEGALS  are not entitled to any more public assistance.

And Dream On Good, who also referred to the federal Dream Act, wrote as part of a longer message:

You have two options. Have your taxpayer dollars fund massive deportations or number two, legalize those undocumented immigrants who have no criminal  backgrounds starting with DREAMers. Keep in mind option number two would require each individual to pay fines, back taxes if they haven’t been  paying taxes. Now I leave it to you to decide which one of those options will generate massive amounts of revenues which will go right back into our economy.

Unlike the federal Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act, neither of the two bills that make up the California Dream Act propose granting legal status to students. But the combination of AB 131′s price tag (though a portion would come from an existing Cal Grants fund, implementing it could run between between $22 million and $42 million) and the state’s current budget crisis, along with other factors, could impede its passage.

The Senate is expected to vote first on the bill, which would then go back to the Assembly for approval of recent amendments. If it is voted in by the state legislature, Gov. Jerry Brown has indicated he will likely sign it. A Brown spokeswoman said yesterday that the governor “continues to broadly support the principles behind the Dream Act and will closely consider any legislation that reaches his desk.”

Will the second part of the California Dream Act become law?

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One of two measures that make up what’s referred to as the California Dream Act was released from suspense in a state Senate committee today, and is expected to go to the Senate floor next week for a vote. But unlike AB 130, a companion bill that was recently signed into law, the bill known as AB 131 faces slimmer odds of success.

Both measures aim to make it easier for undocumented college students to pay tuition. AB 130 allowed these students access to previously unavailable privately funded scholarships. AB 131 would grant them access to publicly funded financial aid, the same kind of financial aid now available to students who are U.S. citizens and legal residents. Although undocumented students can qualify for in-state tuition if they meet state residency requirements, they are still barred from public financial aid programs, such as Cal Grants.

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Readers react to the California Dream Act

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Students' t-shirts at the AB 130 signing ceremony at Los Angeles City College Monday, July 25, 2011

Readers have posted close to 30 comments since Monday on a piece related to the California Dream Act, half of which was signed into law that day by Gov. Jerry Brown in Los Angeles.

The bill that became law, known as AB 130, is the slimmer of two bills that would make it easier for undocumented college students to pay tuition. AB 130 gives these students access to privately funded university scholarships derived from non-state funds.

The more contentious AB 131, which remains hung up in a state Senate committee, would give them access to publicly funded financial aid, which only U.S. citizen and legal resident students are entitled to now.

Public funds or not, the idea of giving undocumented students an easier path through college clearly rattles some. California already allows undocumented college students who meet residency criteria to pay in-state tuition rates, unlike many other states.

Bobeast lamented:

“qualify for in-state tuition under California law”
So they qualify for “in-state” tuition, even if they had to sneak to get in-state? Have we lost our minds? By what theory, legal. moral,  or otherwise, should we afford the rights of citizenship to those who snuck into our country uninvited? I honestly think we’ve simply gone stupid as a society.

Several readers who back the tuition proposals argued that many of the young people who benefit came here at a very early age, brought by their parents with no say in the decision.

Getyourfactsstraight replied:

“uninvited” did you have a choice on where you were born or where you grew up? I think not. So technically you are uninvited here too.

Samantha echoed this:

most of these students had no choice coming here, their parents smuggled them illegally; and theyre just trying to live their life as best as they can. For some of us illegal immigrants, going back to mexico would pretty much be signing a death sentence especially where there are so many narcotics

Jennifer Luchsinger wrote:

I’m disgusted. While I am a firm advocate of education, if these students cannot obtain legal employment, then they will not be required to add to the tax base in our state, nor will they be required to pay taxes to the IRS. We pay taxes so that we can live in a safe society. I have absolutely ZERO sympathy for these students, or their families.

Some of the comments I won’t reprint, as the exchanges became heated and personal at times. But they do point to the highly controversial nature of these proposals, especially AB 131. The bill’s proponents in the state legislature are trying to move to the Senate floor by the end of August in a political climate that is complicated by the state’s financial crisis.

An estimated 24,000 undocumented youths graduate each year from the state’s high schools, according to the office of Gil Cedillo, the Democratic Assembly member who sponsored both bills. It’s estimated that AB 131 would cost between $32 million and $35 million annually, although a portion of this money is already set aside each year for high school students who qualify in terms of income and GPA for Cal Grants college tuition grants, according to Cedillo’s office.